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You may wonder why I've been commenting on an issue that is not usually my board of fare around here.
Aside from the obvious hypocritical race baiting shit heads ("being wealthy is very good. It allows people to be the real asswipes nature intended them to be") pissing me off, the answer is twofold.
First, my thirteen year old daughter came home last week and asked me what I thought about the case. Seems they had watched about it on some sort of edgeecational TeeVee programming at school and she was horrified that an adult had shot and killed a teen for no apparent reason.
Having not followed the issue very closely to that point my alarm bells went off. I told her that from what I had read that it seems that not all was as it was being presented. Then as I began to read more about it I showed her what I was finding and how and explained to her (yet again) about the lying filthy swine of a media in this country. I don't believe I used those exact words but I may have.
Her position has now moderated a great deal.
Secondly, they will try to make this a Second Amendment and Stand Your Ground issue. Chucky the Schmuck Schumer is already calling for an investigation into state Stand Your Ground laws. He said in 2005 when Stand Your Ground was first passed in Florida there were 12 justifiable homicides a year. Since then it has grown to 33 justifiable homicides a year.
He fails to mention that in that same time violent crimes in Florida dropped from 125,957 in 2005 to 101,969 in 2010 although the population grew from 17,768,191 to 18,801,310. (lots more stats here)
I don't know about you but I'd much rather see an additional 21 justifiably shot dead bad guys than an additional 14,000 violent crimes against innocent people.
And even Jeb Bush stating Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here. Sorry, governor, but if the facts prove out to be as described here, then it certainly does.
And Concealed Carry and Stand Your Ground certainly do help deter crime.
Concealed Carry, Stand Your Ground and Neighborhod Watch are not vigilantism.
What the Black Panthers are doing is.
Orlando Sentinel:
Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.
Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.
In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.
Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.
Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.
Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.
Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.
Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.
Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.
Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.
Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:
Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.
Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.
After the Orlando Sentinel was the first to report the detail about the marijuana, other news media have followed the story. That attention led to a press conference called by Trayvon Martin's family after a community forum in Eatonville sponsored by TV talk show host Roland Martin.
Martin family lawyer Benjamin Crump began the press conference by addressing the marijuana report.
"The family has said, 'what does that have to do with him (Zimmerman) killing my son? What does it matter?'" Crump said. "It's completely irrelevant what Trayvon Martin was suspended for on Feb. 26."
Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, said "even in death, they are still disrespecting my son and I feel that that's a sin."
His mother, Sybrina Fulton just has one comment:
"They killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."
Rev. Al Sharpton, who led a rally last week that drew 8,000 to downtown Sanford, said the media was missing the point.
"Why are we asking what Trayvon is capable of, when you have records of Zimmerman's past?" Sharpton asked the crowd of reporters. "He has the record of violence, so why are we going out of our way to create stuff in Trayvon's background when you have documented stuff in Zimmerman's background?"
On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.
Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.
There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.
Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.
Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.
Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.
Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
Zimmerman began yelling for help.
Several witnesses heard those cries, and there's been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Trayvon.
Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.
One witnesses, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.
Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.
When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.
Paramedics gave him first aid, but he said no to going to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.
The Department of Justice last week opened a civil rights investigation into what happened, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.
It's not clear whether the special prosecutor, Angela Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, will have Zimmerman arrested, announce that there's not enough evidence to file a manslaughter charge or present evidence to a grand jury.
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Green Energy
You may wonder why I've been commenting on an issue that is not usually my board of fare around here.
Aside from the obvious hypocritical race baiting shit heads ("being wealthy is very good. It allows people to be the real asswipes nature intended them to be") pissing me off, the answer is twofold.
First, my thirteen year old daughter came home last week and asked me what I thought about the case. Seems they had watched about it on some sort of edgeecational TeeVee programming at school and she was horrified that an adult had shot and killed a teen for no apparent reason.
Having not followed the issue very closely to that point my alarm bells went off. I told her that from what I had read that it seems that not all was as it was being presented. Then as I began to read more about it I showed her what I was finding and how and explained to her (yet again) about the lying filthy swine of a media in this country. I don't believe I used those exact words but I may have.
Her position has now moderated a great deal.
Secondly, they will try to make this a Second Amendment and Stand Your Ground issue. Chucky the Schmuck Schumer is already calling for an investigation into state Stand Your Ground laws. He said in 2005 when Stand Your Ground was first passed in Florida there were 12 justifiable homicides a year. Since then it has grown to 33 justifiable homicides a year.
He fails to mention that in that same time violent crimes in Florida dropped from 125,957 in 2005 to 101,969 in 2010 although the population grew from 17,768,191 to 18,801,310. (lots more stats here)
I don't know about you but I'd much rather see an additional 21 justifiably shot dead bad guys than an additional 14,000 violent crimes against innocent people.
And even Jeb Bush stating Stand Your Ground doesn't apply here. Sorry, governor, but if the facts prove out to be as described here, then it certainly does.
And Concealed Carry and Stand Your Ground certainly do help deter crime.
Concealed Carry, Stand Your Ground and Neighborhod Watch are not vigilantism.
What the Black Panthers are doing is.
Orlando Sentinel:
Police: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him with one blow then began hammering his head
With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.
That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.
Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.
In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.
Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.
Civil rights leaders and thousands of others have demanded Zimmerman's arrest, calling Trayvon a victim of racial profiling and Zimmerman a vigilante.
Trayvon was an unarmed black teenager who had committed no crime, they say, who was gunned down while walking back from a 7-Eleven with nothing more sinister than a package of Skittles and can of Arizona iced tea.
Supporters have held rallies in Sanford, Miami, New York and Tallahassee, calling the case a tragic miscarriage of injustice.
Activist Al Sharpton headlined a rally in Sanford Thursday that drew an estimated 8,000 people. The Rev. Jesse Jackson yesterday spoke at an Eatonville church, where he called Trayvon a martyr.
Another rally is scheduled for 4 p.m. today in Sanford.
Zimmerman has gone into hiding. A fringe group, the New Black Panthers, have offered a $10,000 reward for his capture.
Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:
Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.
Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.
After the Orlando Sentinel was the first to report the detail about the marijuana, other news media have followed the story. That attention led to a press conference called by Trayvon Martin's family after a community forum in Eatonville sponsored by TV talk show host Roland Martin.
Martin family lawyer Benjamin Crump began the press conference by addressing the marijuana report.
"The family has said, 'what does that have to do with him (Zimmerman) killing my son? What does it matter?'" Crump said. "It's completely irrelevant what Trayvon Martin was suspended for on Feb. 26."
Trayvon's father, Tracy Martin, said "even in death, they are still disrespecting my son and I feel that that's a sin."
His mother, Sybrina Fulton just has one comment:
"They killed my son and now they're trying to kill his reputation."
Rev. Al Sharpton, who led a rally last week that drew 8,000 to downtown Sanford, said the media was missing the point.
"Why are we asking what Trayvon is capable of, when you have records of Zimmerman's past?" Sharpton asked the crowd of reporters. "He has the record of violence, so why are we going out of our way to create stuff in Trayvon's background when you have documented stuff in Zimmerman's background?"
On Feb. 26, when Zimmerman first spotted Trayvon, he called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.
Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.
There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.
Zimmerman told them he lost sight of Trayvon and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from the left rear, and they exchanged words.
Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.
Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.
Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
Zimmerman began yelling for help.
Several witnesses heard those cries, and there's been a dispute about from whom they came: Zimmerman or Trayvon.
Lawyers for Trayvon's family say it was Trayvon, but police say their evidence indicates it was Zimmerman.
One witnesses, who has since talked to local television news reporters, told police he saw Zimmerman on the ground with Trayvon on top, pounding him and was unequivocal that it was Zimmerman who was crying for help.
Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.
When police arrived less than two minutes later, Zimmerman was bleeding from the nose, had a swollen lip and had bloody lacerations to the back of his head.
Paramedics gave him first aid, but he said no to going to the hospital. He got medical care the next day.
The Department of Justice last week opened a civil rights investigation into what happened, and Gov. Rick Scott appointed a special prosecutor.
It's not clear whether the special prosecutor, Angela Corey, the state attorney for Duval, Clay and Nassau counties, will have Zimmerman arrested, announce that there's not enough evidence to file a manslaughter charge or present evidence to a grand jury.
- “we Are All Trayvon” Mural Unveiled In State Capitol In Florida
This is a crime against an innocent man. Yes, that is right. It is slander against George Zimmerman. A mural of a man who looks like George Zimmerman shooting a likeness of Trayvon Martin was unveiled Friday at the state Capitol of Florida. A mirror...
- So, The Word "nigger" Was Uttered While Zimmerman Was Following Trayvon Martin
From the Miami Herald: ANFORD -- The last person to speak with Trayvon Martin before George Zimmerman fatally shot the Miami Gardens teen testified Wednesday about her last conversation with Trayvon, seconds before his killing. “He kept complaining...
- No Grand Jury In The Trayvon Martin Case
Via The Blaze:Tuesday was set to be a pivotal day in the ongoing investigation into the Trayvon Martin case that has rocked headlines and dominated political discussion for the last month, for it was when a group of citizens were set to make up a grand...
- Lead Investigator On Trayvon Martin Case Wanted Manslaughter Charge, State Attorney's Office Said No, Could This Be Because Zimmerman's Father Is A Retired Judge?
Here's something I picked up on the Interwebz today. Don't know if it is true: "George Zimmerman is the son of retired Virginia Supreme Court magistrate Judge Robert J. Zimmerman, his mother Gladys Zimmerman is a court clerk. He has three closed...
- George Zimmerman Vs. Trayvon Martin: Media Bias
The first day I watched the coverage of this shooting, I said to myself, "ah, some crazy moron killed a kid because he was paranoid and racist." My opinion was formed not because I knew the facts, but because the first thing I saw was the following image:...