A slip of the tongue ..? I HATE this entire argument. Vlams, BNP, Charles, Atlas et al...
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A slip of the tongue ..? I HATE this entire argument. Vlams, BNP, Charles, Atlas et al...



I admire the main cause of Paul Belien (yes, Virginia this all ends with a but). I admire his fortitude thru what the idiotic Belgian govt has put him thru. He seems to be fighting the good fight for the right things.

So what is this about?

But now there are those firing bolts back and forth across the Atlantic, including him in this goop melange of truth and fiction, of fascist heritage and racial discrimination, of deniers, and genocide, of defense of liberal western values, of wedges between america and her allies, and of nationalism, and racism, of borders and security and WHAT?

This surprise, but not, issue has raised it's very ugly head when Vlams Belang which seemed to me to be defending western values (whatever that means IS the issue, BTW) was rapped by a racist, neo nazi claim.

There is no doubt that their heritage looks to be that, and what they are now, in terms of individuals is at best a very serious question. Serious enough that they should, selflessly, if they are innocent and truly concerned, like Thomas Eagleton, step out of the way. BNP is another story and is past contamination as is truly on the other side. I will never pal up with them under any circumstances. What they are defending is not anything I value, not even peripherally.

In Europe we have "nationalists" who are essentially defending ethnic purity, and NOT values. We also have nationalists defending liberal western values, like the Bill of Rights.

Here we have men like Tom Tancredo, valuable honest, and defending SECURE BORDERS, tainted by things like this. Now I just don't buy that Tancredo is for a secure border because he thinks Mexicans not white enough to get across the border. IS THAT the confusion over Vlams Belang? Well we don't have pix of Tancredo with white power symbols in his home, 'paling up' with the CCC repeatedly, and other indicators, such as those we saw with the senator from Mississippi, Mr.Lott that differentiated him from us when the stupid Strom Thurmond birthday party burst over us.

Then comes Mr. Belien today with a somewhat ignorant of american minutiae (that's okay, believe me I'm sure I can't place Belgium politicians in the full spectrum of left to right either) defending himself somewhat and others a bit more forcefully in the racist claim counterclaim, and suddenly comes a money line of a Freudian moment (???) ....

The diminishing future of ethnic Euros everywhere is at stake,.....


Sorry, Paul, but I DON'T GIVE SHIT ABOUT ETHNIC EURO'S.
I never did. I never will.
I care about the folks who want the PEOPLE to be sovereign, not some book. I don;t care if those people who defend my individual right to bear arms, and tell everyone to go to hell, are WHAT SOME WOULD CALL MUSLIMS, or SHINTO, or ZULU.If other ethnicities will benefit america (and THEY FREAKING DO)..I am all for it, as long as they BUY INTO THE PROGRAM. Written in 1789 and amended at our pleasure.

Shockingly, I would have to say that line says for you, defending the position of ETHNIC EURO'S is a western value. I'm not going to defend Theo Van Gogh because he is a European ethnic, and he was defending his ethnicity by whacking Islam's intolerance.

Maybe defending the position of ETHNIC EURO'S in a growing deluge of other cultured and colored muslims is a western value, but it is NOT an american one, unless of course you are a member of the CCC

Do I have this all wrong? This is highly disappointing from Mr Belien.

This argument is sapping. These other forces such as Vlams Belang, BNP should SLINK away, reorganize, make penance without question, hesitation or equivocation, and quietly get out from under the weight of the past, if it is possible. They can contribute in their present form, and heritage ONLY NEGATIVE ENERGY




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