Twenty states have now started petitions on the White House website to peacefully secede from the United States. In less than one week Texas and Louisiana are already close to having the 24,000 signatures needed before the Obama Administration will respond to their request.
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A friend wrote the following to me. At this point, I have no definite ideas, but in general, I agree with what he has to say:
I would support a division of the country by red states/blue states, with some states being split down the middle in the process. The result would only roughly satisfy the constitutionalist/progressive divide, and would leave plenty of Danzig-like pockets in both new states. I think the process suggested by the guy from Texas is eminently reasonable: the split happens without a civil war, and there is free trade between the two new nations. I would also like to see a period of 5 years or so of open resettlement, a population transfer like that between Greece and Turkey after WWI, so people can go to their natural country and not get stuck in the other guy's. After that, there could still be fairly open travel, as there is now between the US and Canada.
The Red State could even be so mangnimous as to provide military protection for the Blue State, as the US has for Europe for decades. This way the Red State could make the right foreign policy decisions, without interference from Blue State voters, and the Blue State could be freed up to pursue its European transformation. The economies of both states would maybe thrive -- Blue as Europe's did up until the EU bubble burst, and Red because it would be full of traditional Americans succeeding in an atmosphere of freedom and hard work, as it was before the fall of the US and rise of Obama.
I definitely think there are plenty of ways to accomodate a peaceful division, and this is a conversation that should be moved to the mainstream. Currently the only response to the contrary is mockery, but that won't do once enough people start taking concrete steps to make it happen. It would benefit people on both sides, so I don't see why it should be fought. We want to preserve our constitution and way of life, they want something new culturally, demographically, economically, and politically.
It wouldn't have to be limited to 2 states either, it could break into 6 chunks maybe. You could have one large red state known as America, then there would be a set of protectorates: Los Angeles, New England, New York, Great Lakes, Miami.
One thing I am fairly confident about: a breakup or collapse is coming, and it can be either peaceful or violent, and it can either be internal or external. The US as we knew it is history. It would be possible for us to manage the collapse or breakup in order to see about the best possible result. But, that's like me saying it's possible for us to reverse course and save the USA. The election shows me that this is not realistic, even if technically possible. And if we don't have the foresight to salvage the country, I'm sure we don't have the foresight to manage a satisfactory unwinding of the country either. So it will not be pretty. I don't think there's going to be anything left to salvage in the end.
A friend wrote the following to me. At this point, I have no definite ideas, but in general, I agree with what he has to say:
I would support a division of the country by red states/blue states, with some states being split down the middle in the process. The result would only roughly satisfy the constitutionalist/progressive divide, and would leave plenty of Danzig-like pockets in both new states. I think the process suggested by the guy from Texas is eminently reasonable: the split happens without a civil war, and there is free trade between the two new nations. I would also like to see a period of 5 years or so of open resettlement, a population transfer like that between Greece and Turkey after WWI, so people can go to their natural country and not get stuck in the other guy's. After that, there could still be fairly open travel, as there is now between the US and Canada.
The Red State could even be so mangnimous as to provide military protection for the Blue State, as the US has for Europe for decades. This way the Red State could make the right foreign policy decisions, without interference from Blue State voters, and the Blue State could be freed up to pursue its European transformation. The economies of both states would maybe thrive -- Blue as Europe's did up until the EU bubble burst, and Red because it would be full of traditional Americans succeeding in an atmosphere of freedom and hard work, as it was before the fall of the US and rise of Obama.
I definitely think there are plenty of ways to accomodate a peaceful division, and this is a conversation that should be moved to the mainstream. Currently the only response to the contrary is mockery, but that won't do once enough people start taking concrete steps to make it happen. It would benefit people on both sides, so I don't see why it should be fought. We want to preserve our constitution and way of life, they want something new culturally, demographically, economically, and politically.
It wouldn't have to be limited to 2 states either, it could break into 6 chunks maybe. You could have one large red state known as America, then there would be a set of protectorates: Los Angeles, New England, New York, Great Lakes, Miami.
One thing I am fairly confident about: a breakup or collapse is coming, and it can be either peaceful or violent, and it can either be internal or external. The US as we knew it is history. It would be possible for us to manage the collapse or breakup in order to see about the best possible result. But, that's like me saying it's possible for us to reverse course and save the USA. The election shows me that this is not realistic, even if technically possible. And if we don't have the foresight to salvage the country, I'm sure we don't have the foresight to manage a satisfactory unwinding of the country either. So it will not be pretty. I don't think there's going to be anything left to salvage in the end.