Historian/Ambassador Michael Oren: US, Israel at "historic crisis"

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JERUSALEM - Israeli-U.S. relations have hit a 35-year low over a West Bank settlement plan that threatens to derail peacemaking efforts with the Palestinians, Israel's envoy to Washington was quoted as saying on Monday.

The comments attributed to Ambassador Michael Oren, a noted Middle East historian, clashed with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's assurances that the row resulting from a settlement announcement deemed "insulting" by the Obama administration was under control.

"Israel's ties with the United States are in their worst crisis since 1975 ... a crisis of historic proportions," the Yedioth Ahronoth newspaper quoted Oren as telling other Israeli diplomats in a telephone briefing over the weekend.

The remarks, also carried by other Israeli media, appeared to refer to U.S. pressure in 1975 for an Israeli redeployment in the Egyptian Sinai, occupied by Israel since the 1967 war and the site of renewed fighting in 1973.

I'm getting tired of warning that the US is NOT the only weapons supplier (i.e. Israeli National Security helper) in this world. We would do well to consider a middle east in which our main 'ally' is JORDAN, or IRAQ, or KSA.

I am not one who believes that the west bank, Judea and Samaria is some god given Jewish 'waqf', but I am one who believes that the Arabs have lost in war, actually, SEVERAL WARS OF JEWISH ANNIHILATION, any right to complain about a damn thing, when they could have had a settlement ANY MOMENT THEY WISHED TO ACCEPT AN ISRAEL since 1937. Every day that passes while they obfuscate the true goal, reiterated in Arabic every time they say in English they want peace, SHOULD cause more Jewish building. Given the real goal of the Arabs, what is there to lose?

Since the USA refuses to call a spade a spade, making some Ho Chi Minh Peace, if it works out that way, the goal, rather than an Israel existing in some kind of security among 100% of other neighbors who want her dead, what does ISRAEL have to lose by casting about for other COMPLETELY UNSCRUPULOUS weapons suppliers, who won't make some dreamlike, vapid, 15 year old girl fantasy the aspiration of national policy.

Oren has the correct approach. This should be brought to a head by adults.

We have a lot to lose. More than Israel. And they have a LOT to lose.

UPDATE FROM HAARETZ- ULTIMATUM FROM OBAMA ..always tough on those who can do no harm to us