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Pistol-packing pupils measure passes House
Alot of folks will disagree with me about allowing guns on college campuses. You won't change my mind.Why is concealed carry by responsible people a GOOD idea anywhere? April 16, 2007
from Missouri Digital News h/t Dr. Bulldog
Pistol-packing pupils measure passes House
Date: April 16, 2009
By: Michael Bushnell
State Capitol Bureau
JEFFERSON CITY - Exactly two years after a gunman killed 32 people and himself on the campus of Virginia Tech University, the Missouri House voted to allow concealed weapons on college campuses.
An amendment to a proposed gun bill, which was approved, 105-50, Thursday, would pertain only to gunowners who are properly licensed in the state. The bill can now move to the state Senate for consideration.
Republicans speaking in favor of the concealed carry amendment say college students have a right to defend themselves from violent people who would disregard designated gun-free zones.
"I believe in concealed carry," said Rep. Denny Hoskins, R-Warrensburg. "If you can carry a gun in other public places, why should an open college campus be any different?"
"I believe in concealed carry," said Rep. Denny Hoskins, R-Warrensburg. "If you can carry a gun in other public places, why should an open college campus be any different?"
Although the bill passed with support from a strong majority of state representatives, it has been criticized by university officials. Presidents of the University of Missouri, Rockhurst University and Missouri State University have all spoken out against the amendment, as have many newspaper editorial pages around the state.
At least one House member, Rep. Jason Kander, D-Kansas City, says university leadership should have the right to determine its own gun regulations.
"This says that we don't trust college presidents to decide for themselves whether guns should be allowed on campus or not," Kander said Thursday. "They should have the right to decide what's best for their campus."
Rep. Gary Dusenberg, R-Blue Springs, said people's right to defend themselves from potential violence supercedes the will of college presidents.
Dusenberg added that 21-year-old college students are smart and mature enough to carry weapons anywhere, including on campuses.
"What we need to remember is that these people who are 21 know what they can and cannot do, and if someone wants to be a criminal, they are going to be a criminal no matter what. People have a right to defend themselves from that."
Dusenberg pointed to studies showing that mass shooters tend to target gun-free zones, such as college campuses. Students are prohibited from carrying concealed weapons at Virginia Tech and also at Northern Illinois University, where six students were gunned down in February 2008.
Despite opposition to the concealed carry amendment, multiple Democrats, including Kander, voiced support for other aspects of the bill, which would enable Missourians to kill anyone unlawfully entering their private property and would lower the age requirement for obtaining a concealed weapons permit from 23 to 21.
At one point the controversial amendment's sponsor, Rep. Brian Munzlinger, R-Williamstown, tried to bring his proposal forward as a stand-alone bill, but he struggled to find a successful House committe vote. Instead, the amendment was added to the larger gun rights bill by a 106 to 41 voted last week -- but not without contentious debate.
Even with the bill winning ultimate House approval Thursday, the Senate could still strip Munzlinger's amendment or could filibuster the bill when it is considered. And, while Republicans control Missouri's upper legislative chamber 23 to 11, Rep. Jeff Roorda, D-Barnhart -- who opposed the House bill -- said he doesn't expect the amendment to survive through the Senate.
"There is a lot of good in the bill, and it's kind of a shame that it has been clogged by this wedge issue," Roorda said.
Rep. Mary Still, D-Columbia, argued that college students who are under stress or potentially under the influence of drugs or alcohol should not have even easier access to guns than they already do.
She added that she has heard concerns regarding the measure from Republicans and Democrats alike.
"I hear it from people in both parties who think this is a terrible idea," Still said.
But Munzlinger maintained that those who are against the bill are misguided.
"The law-abiding citizens are the ones who the opponents of this bill fear," Munzlinger said. "They should be fearing those who want to create mayhem and allow for people to protect themselves."
Although legislators made frequent reference to the Virginia Tech tragedy during Thursday's debate, no mention was made that the gun rights bill was being considered on its anniversary.
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Newsmax: Bill Would Let Legal Gun Owners Carry Weapons Around Country Gun owners with legal permits would be allowed to carry concealed weapons around the country under a bill introduced in the Senate — a measure that previously came just three votes...
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Though it should come as no surprise to anyone here, I'm in favor of concealed carry on campuses. And everywhere else, for that matter. An armed society is a polite society Fox: Opponents of Gun-Free Zones at Universities Find Unlikely Hero in Nevada...
- Concealed-carry Law Applies To Campuses
It will no doubt surprise more than a few of you to find I do not completely agree with this ruling. (a moment while they pick up their jaws. . .) Here's why: While I agree that banning campus carry is misguided and stupid (the whole Va. Tech argument...
- Thune Would Make Carry Permits Valid Across The Nation --- Updated/bumped
Update -- this was defeated in the Senate today (predictable reactions --- Chuck the Schmuck: the most dangerous piece of legislation to the safety of Americans when it comes to guns since the repeal of the assault weapons ban -- Dianne WhineStein: This...
- Barack Obama Voted Four Times To Allow Criminal Charges Against Homeowners Who Defend Their Person And Home With A Gun
I really do not want to see Barack Obama become President. The man thinks it is wrong for a person to defend his own property. One can only surmise that the concept of personal property does not mean much to Barack Obama. Perhaps, he subscribes to the...