Speaking of the PATH Train/Holland Tunnel and FISA
I cannot help but wonder if the phone data mining and surveillance program was used to bust the killers who were plotting to blow up the Holland Tunnel (and also needed a little time with Archimedes about water levels and flooding).
Which brings me to the real point of this comment.
Europe, those who dislike us out in the world, and many americans have conflated how and when to treat those who plan to attack us as criminals, and when to treat them as prisoners of a new kind of war.
This issue brings out conundrums in freedom of speech, hate speech, and freedom of religion.
In previous times restrictions in war time were about those who opposed a war and were involved by speaking against the administration, opposing the draft, urging desertion and other acts of 'conscience'.
Any president of either party felt that any action he undertook was for the good and safety of the nation and that those who opposed these needed actions were against not HIM but the good and safety of the nation.
Any president. Take your pick. Adams, Lincoln, Jackson, Wilson, FDR, Truman, LBJ, and Bush. The 'worst' in this regard were Wilson and Lincoln (IMHO)..
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