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A commenter named Yankee Doodle left the following comment here at IBA this morning:
President Whateverhisnameis in Iran (called there "the monkey") is neither popular nor respected. But, if attacked, many Iranians, out of national pride, may side with him, since he's their "monkey".
Either a declared nuclear capability or an American attack might just solve domestic problems for "the monkey", as he either gains prestige or people rally around the flag.Personally, I wonder if Iran might not be vulnerable to a charm offensive. There are a great many people there tired of the stonings, the religious police, the foreign religion (Islam comes from Arabia), the rise in AIDS, drug addiction and prostitution -- all caused by failed policies of Iran's idiotic regimes.
It's kind of like if you had President Hillary Clinton in charge, and America gets attacked. People like Hillary are to blame for many of the problems here, but wouldn't we defend America?
Besides all that, not one of the 9/11 hijackers was an Iranian. 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Bali, Beslan, Kashmir.... it all gets traced back to Medina and the universities of hatred there, hatred funded and spread around by the Saudi royal family, our knife-in-the-back friends. Riyadh is the criminal hideout here, not Tehran. They could clamp down on those preachers of hatred, they could stop funding new mosques around the world, they could stop training mullahs in radicalized Islam and sending them to those new mosques, exactly the same way they DO prevent Christianity from "staining" their sorry-ass desert kingdom -- but, they don't. They're the ones we need to get by the private parts and hold accountable.
Iran isn't ready to go umpteen rounds in the ring with America, and "the monkey" knows it. Besides which, one nuke does not a power make. You still have to deliver it. We can shoot down their planes and missiles. That leaves terrorists. Bin Laden already has small nukes since 1996, and he's been able to maintain them. Just another argument that we should be all over Bin Laden like "ugly" on "the monkey's" face.
I think we're barking up the wrong tree.
Here is my response to the Yankee Doodle dandy:
With all due respect, (because clearly you have studied these issues, you are not an ignoramus), I think you don't understand that there isn't just one tree up which to bark.There is a Sunni tree and there is a Shiite tree. In my opinion, the Iranians are just as dangerous as the Sauds. And, what's more, we know they will work together. Iran is funding you Hamas and Hizbollah, and you MUST know that, my friend, since you have studied the issue so much.
And, I am surprised at how many learned people, like you, who study these issues, don't seem to look at a map. There is clearly a broad strategy to our war. We attacked Afghanistan and Iraq first, because we had legal justification to do so, no matter what the UN said. We now have bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have our naval forces stationed in the Persian Gulf.
WE HAVE IRAN SURROUNDED.
Since you have studied these issues so deeply, you ought to know that America did not buy oil from Iran since 1979, and we didn't buy oil from Iraq until we got rid of Hussein.
Now, what does that tell you? It ought to tell you that we are dependent on Saudi Arabia.
Now, think a little further. If we now buy oil from Iraq and we have Iran surrounded, then what does that say to Saudi Arabia?
It says, their days are numbered.
Now, I am not saying that we will follow through on this strategy, but I am quite sure this was the strategy we started out with. It seems that someone, Lord knows who, has cut Bush's balls off.
John Bolton insists that Bush is going to go through with this, and if there is anyone within the inner circle whom I trust, it is Bolton.
Strike up the band, Yankee Doodle, because in my opinion, the fireworks show is about to start, no matter how you feel about it.
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Yankee Doodle Is Confused About His Macaroni
A commenter named Yankee Doodle left the following comment here at IBA this morning:
President Whateverhisnameis in Iran (called there "the monkey") is neither popular nor respected. But, if attacked, many Iranians, out of national pride, may side with him, since he's their "monkey".
Either a declared nuclear capability or an American attack might just solve domestic problems for "the monkey", as he either gains prestige or people rally around the flag.Personally, I wonder if Iran might not be vulnerable to a charm offensive. There are a great many people there tired of the stonings, the religious police, the foreign religion (Islam comes from Arabia), the rise in AIDS, drug addiction and prostitution -- all caused by failed policies of Iran's idiotic regimes.
It's kind of like if you had President Hillary Clinton in charge, and America gets attacked. People like Hillary are to blame for many of the problems here, but wouldn't we defend America?
Besides all that, not one of the 9/11 hijackers was an Iranian. 9/11, 7/7, Madrid, Bali, Beslan, Kashmir.... it all gets traced back to Medina and the universities of hatred there, hatred funded and spread around by the Saudi royal family, our knife-in-the-back friends. Riyadh is the criminal hideout here, not Tehran. They could clamp down on those preachers of hatred, they could stop funding new mosques around the world, they could stop training mullahs in radicalized Islam and sending them to those new mosques, exactly the same way they DO prevent Christianity from "staining" their sorry-ass desert kingdom -- but, they don't. They're the ones we need to get by the private parts and hold accountable.
Iran isn't ready to go umpteen rounds in the ring with America, and "the monkey" knows it. Besides which, one nuke does not a power make. You still have to deliver it. We can shoot down their planes and missiles. That leaves terrorists. Bin Laden already has small nukes since 1996, and he's been able to maintain them. Just another argument that we should be all over Bin Laden like "ugly" on "the monkey's" face.
I think we're barking up the wrong tree.
Here is my response to the Yankee Doodle dandy:
With all due respect, (because clearly you have studied these issues, you are not an ignoramus), I think you don't understand that there isn't just one tree up which to bark.There is a Sunni tree and there is a Shiite tree. In my opinion, the Iranians are just as dangerous as the Sauds. And, what's more, we know they will work together. Iran is funding you Hamas and Hizbollah, and you MUST know that, my friend, since you have studied the issue so much.
And, I am surprised at how many learned people, like you, who study these issues, don't seem to look at a map. There is clearly a broad strategy to our war. We attacked Afghanistan and Iraq first, because we had legal justification to do so, no matter what the UN said. We now have bases in Afghanistan and Iraq, and we have our naval forces stationed in the Persian Gulf.
WE HAVE IRAN SURROUNDED.
Since you have studied these issues so deeply, you ought to know that America did not buy oil from Iran since 1979, and we didn't buy oil from Iraq until we got rid of Hussein.
Now, what does that tell you? It ought to tell you that we are dependent on Saudi Arabia.
Now, think a little further. If we now buy oil from Iraq and we have Iran surrounded, then what does that say to Saudi Arabia?
It says, their days are numbered.
Now, I am not saying that we will follow through on this strategy, but I am quite sure this was the strategy we started out with. It seems that someone, Lord knows who, has cut Bush's balls off.
John Bolton insists that Bush is going to go through with this, and if there is anyone within the inner circle whom I trust, it is Bolton.
Strike up the band, Yankee Doodle, because in my opinion, the fireworks show is about to start, no matter how you feel about it.
-
Bloomberg: Bin Laden Son Says U.S. May Agree to Let in Family July 19, 2010, 11:54 AM EDT July 19 (Bloomberg) -- A son of Osama bin Laden said about 20 members of his family stranded in Iran are seeking sanctuary in a third country and that the U.S. may...
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John Bolton: US should bomb Iranian camps By Damien McElroy, Foreign Affairs Correspondent Last Updated: 3:35PM BST 06/05/2008 John Bolton, America's ex-ambassador to the United Nations, has called for US air strikes on Iranian camps...
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Saudi Arabia and Iran Will Come Head To Head In Iraq (from the Telegraph): The gulf's two military powers, Sunni-Muslim Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran, are lining up behind their warring religious brethren in Iraq in a potentially explosive showdown,...
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From Strategy Page, via Atlas Shrugs: Iran aside, there hasn't been a really noisy response from the Moslem world about Israel's military operations against Lebanon. Notably subdued is the response from the Arab countries; it's mostly been...
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The claim… the neocons are “framing discussion on Iran”, well no, the neo cons are bringing objective reality to you. It you who perceive anything you disagree with as an attempt to alter perceptions. To you in fact, reality IS perception. Which...