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Is Egypt's State Council misunderstanding the Krayon, or is this the true Islam? If I say that Islam is an immoral religion which does not permit basic human rights such as Freedom of Conscience, I am accused of being a racist/Islamophobe/bigot/Nazi/extremist.
But, if the Egyptian State Council openly declares that exercising one's Freedom of Conscience is punishable by death according to Islamic law, then what are they?
My answer?
They are
1) Nazis
2) Muslims.
3) Extremists
It's up to the Muslims of the world to define their religion, so that we do not believe that the above three things are all one and the same.
Let us be very clear about this. It is up to Muslims to define their religion. It is not up to us.
If they define their religion in this way, it is up to us to let the world know the truth.
From Jihad Watch:
"Egypt: Christian convert's rights case threatens Islamists," from Compass Direct News, May 12:
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Egypt's State Council issues report stating Christians are infidels, and apostates from Islam should die
Is Egypt's State Council misunderstanding the Krayon, or is this the true Islam? If I say that Islam is an immoral religion which does not permit basic human rights such as Freedom of Conscience, I am accused of being a racist/Islamophobe/bigot/Nazi/extremist.
But, if the Egyptian State Council openly declares that exercising one's Freedom of Conscience is punishable by death according to Islamic law, then what are they?
My answer?
They are
1) Nazis
2) Muslims.
3) Extremists
It's up to the Muslims of the world to define their religion, so that we do not believe that the above three things are all one and the same.
Let us be very clear about this. It is up to Muslims to define their religion. It is not up to us.
If they define their religion in this way, it is up to us to let the world know the truth.
From Jihad Watch:
"Egypt: Christian convert's rights case threatens Islamists," from Compass Direct News, May 12:
CAIRO, Egypt, May 12 (Compass Direct News) – In the dilapidated office here
of three lawyers representing one of Egypt’s “most wanted” Christian converts,
the mood was hopeful in spite of a barrage of death threats against them and
their client.
At a court hearing on May 2, a judge agreed to a request by the convert
from Islam to join the two cases he has opened to change his ID card to reflect
his new faith. The court set June 13 as the date to rule on the case of Maher
Ahmad El-Mo’otahssem Bellah El-Gohary’s – who is in hiding from outraged
Islamists – and lawyer Nabil Ghobreyal said he was hopeful that progress thus
far will lead to a favorable ruling.
At the same time, El-Gohary’s lawyers termed potentially “catastrophic”
for Egyptian human rights a report sent to the judge by the State Council, a
consultative body of Egypt’s Administrative Court. Expressing outrage at
El-Gohary’s “audacity” to request a change in the religious designation on his
ID, the report claims the case is a threat to societal order and violates sharia
(Islamic law).
“This [report] is bombarding freedom of religion in Egypt,” said lawyer
Said Faiz. “They are insisting that the path to Islam is a one-way street. The
entire report is based on sharia.”
The report is counterproductive for Egypt’s aspirations for improved
human rights, they said. In the eyes of the international community it is
self-condemned, the lawyers said, because it is not based on Egypt’s civil law,
nor does it uphold the International Convention on Civil and Political Rights
that Egypt has signed.
The report stated that those who leave Islam will be subject to death,
described El-Gohary as an “apostate” and called all Christians “infidels.”
“During the hearing, they [Islamic lawyers] were saying that Christians
are infidels and that Christ was a Muslim, so we said, ‘OK, bring us the papers
that show Jesus embraced Islam,’” Faiz said, to a round of laughter from his
colleagues.
Ghobreyal, adding that the report says El-Gohary’s case threatens
public order, noted wryly, “In Egypt we have freedom of religion, but these
freedoms can’t go against Islam.” [...]
To date no Christian convert in Egypt has obtained a baptismal
certificate, which amounts to official proof of conversion.
Churches fear that issuing such certificates would create a severe
backlash. As a result, converts cannot apply for a change of religion on their
ID, but El-Gohary was able to travel abroad to get a baptismal certificate from
a well-established church. In April a Coptic Cairo-based priest recognized this
certificate and issued him a letter of acceptance, or “conversion certificate,”
welcoming him to the Coptic Orthodox community.
El-Gohary’s baptismal certificate caused a fury among the nation’s
Islamic lobby, as it led to the first official church recognition of a convert.
A number of fatwas (religious edicts) have since been issued against El-Gohary
and Father Matthias Nasr Manqarious, the priest who helped him.
“The converts have no chance to travel, to leave, to get asylum, so we
have to help them to get documents for their new religion,” Fr. Manqarious told
Compass by telephone. “So I decided to help Maher El-Gohary and others like him.
They can’t live as Christians in broad daylight.”
- No Truer Words - All Muslims Are Charged With Applying The Teachings Of Islam To Remove Such Idols
But these words will not be heard in the White House.They mark the commandment of what Muslims regard as a document uncreated and having always been in existence, and a revelation of a perfect being.Some of us have been saying this kind of outlook by...
-
Jihad Watch:Democracy on the march: Christians begin to flee Egypt I tried to tell you. "Christians begin to flee Egypt," from Christian News Today, April 14 (thanks to Alexandre): A growing number of Egypt’s 8-10 million Coptic Christians are looking...
- Oliver Stone And Ahmadinejad And Father Khalil Samir On Conversion From Islam
On the first subject, Ahmadinejad rejected some weeks ago the possibility of collaborating with Oliver Stone in the new film that the latter is going to do about him. And I say, is because Ahmadinejad has accepted this same week. It's probable than...
- Egyptian Mufti Denies Saying Apostasy Should Not Be Punished By Death
Oops. Yesterday, I was happy to report that the Egyptian Grand Mufti had declared that apostasy ought no longer be punished with the death penalty. But, today, I find he denies ever saying any such thing. Oh well, back to the 7th century we go. Thanks...
- Egypt: Mufti Banishes Death Penalty For Apostasy
Thanks to Ali Eteraz for sending this over to me. Ali says, "This is a huge day." I agree. This is very clear progress. Egypt’s official religious advisor has ruled that Muslims are free to change their faith as it is a matter between an individual...