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What is it that those who TODAY consider themselves to be conservative want?
Are they conservative a la Goldwater or is it something else which defines conservatism today?
Do they want Roe V Wade overturned?
If so, what about taxes? How do you pay for the security of the people? (Hey, just asking)
Is a secure nearly impenetrable border (from the outside, to illegals) a conservative issue? I think so. Then what about immigration? 1900 US Census, 76 million. 1900-1924 18 million southern europeans, slavs and jews make it here. That's 24%. Our population in 1980 was 226 million and we took in HOW MANY? Did we do okay with our immigrants from 1900-1924? Is that a conservative issue? Was our culture destroyed by this flood of one fourth of our nation JUST from southern europe?
Family VALUES, is that conservative issue? Well.... ‘To Goldwater, government did not belong either in your boardroom or your bedroom.’ That's a judeo christian (and OTHER) ethic NOT a conservative value. I don't care if my neighbor sacrifices goats and has orgies as long as his fence is high enough. Neither did Barry Goldwater.."When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye. " In response to Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell's opposition to the nomination of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court, of which Falwell had said, “Every good Christian should be concerned,” Goldwater retorted: “I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”. This, btw is an almost exact match for Mr. McCain's thoughts on that.
How about gay rights....well....
“You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.” (Guess who?)
in 1996 Barry Goldwater told Bob Dole, whose own presidential campaign received lukewarm support from conservative Republicans: “We're the new liberals of the Republican Party. Can you imagine that?”
Upset because Mr McCain voted against Bush's tax cuts, well he wanted SPENDING CUTS to match. That's the record. Which is the more conservative viewpoint?
Likewise Harry Truman and FDR would be considered reactionary, xenophobic war criminals by many in today's democratic party.
So for those of you foaming at the mouth and with loosening bowels over John McCain, get a grip and think of what the middle east will be like 3 years after an Obama or Clinton victory because you indulged yourselves in a fit of conservative chic deranged bashing of John McCain IF HE IS NOMINATED
Among those in New Hampshire who valued a candidate who “says what he believes,” 53 percent supported McCain. The next closest candidate? Mitt Romney at 13 percent.
I wonder if Barry Goldwater would be 'conservative' enough for those who wish to sacrifice the next election on the altar of conservative purity?
- "mark My Word, If And When These Preachers Get Control Of The Party, And They’re Sure Trying To Do So, It’s Going To Be A Terrible Damn Problem.”
Barry Goldwater Full quote: Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand...
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- Democrats Hate Property, Fine...but What Do Republicans Stand For Now?
Since the Goldwater inspired victory of Ronald Reagan a generation ago, and Newt Gingrich's similarly generated 1994 victory the republicans have degenerated from a libertarian based conservatism to what is now perceived to be a corrupted group...
- Why I Cannot Yet Be A Republican ..and It's An Easy One
James Dobson decides to endorse Hillary Clinton? You bet. Make no mistake about this one ... The Values Test By JAMES C. DOBSON Colorado Springs REPORTS have surfaced in the press about a meeting that occurred last Saturday in Salt Lake City...
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What is it that those who TODAY consider themselves to be conservative want?
Are they conservative a la Goldwater or is it something else which defines conservatism today?
Do they want Roe V Wade overturned?
Would that be because it is bad constitutional law, or because abortion is murder. Or does it matter? What about a woman's control over her own body? (Hey just asking) Does it matter? Goldwater believed it WAS a woman's right to control her body.Do they want a balanced budget? In a war without a defined endpoint?
If so, what about taxes? How do you pay for the security of the people? (Hey, just asking)
Is a secure nearly impenetrable border (from the outside, to illegals) a conservative issue? I think so. Then what about immigration? 1900 US Census, 76 million. 1900-1924 18 million southern europeans, slavs and jews make it here. That's 24%. Our population in 1980 was 226 million and we took in HOW MANY? Did we do okay with our immigrants from 1900-1924? Is that a conservative issue? Was our culture destroyed by this flood of one fourth of our nation JUST from southern europe?
Family VALUES, is that conservative issue? Well.... ‘To Goldwater, government did not belong either in your boardroom or your bedroom.’ That's a judeo christian (and OTHER) ethic NOT a conservative value. I don't care if my neighbor sacrifices goats and has orgies as long as his fence is high enough. Neither did Barry Goldwater.."When you say “radical right” today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye. " In response to Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell's opposition to the nomination of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court, of which Falwell had said, “Every good Christian should be concerned,” Goldwater retorted: “I think every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass.”. This, btw is an almost exact match for Mr. McCain's thoughts on that.
How about gay rights....well....
“You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight.” (Guess who?)in 1996 Barry Goldwater told Bob Dole, whose own presidential campaign received lukewarm support from conservative Republicans: “We're the new liberals of the Republican Party. Can you imagine that?”
Upset because Mr McCain voted against Bush's tax cuts, well he wanted SPENDING CUTS to match. That's the record. Which is the more conservative viewpoint?
Likewise Harry Truman and FDR would be considered reactionary, xenophobic war criminals by many in today's democratic party.
So for those of you foaming at the mouth and with loosening bowels over John McCain, get a grip and think of what the middle east will be like 3 years after an Obama or Clinton victory because you indulged yourselves in a fit of conservative chic deranged bashing of John McCain IF HE IS NOMINATED
Among those in New Hampshire who valued a candidate who “says what he believes,” 53 percent supported McCain. The next closest candidate? Mitt Romney at 13 percent.
I wonder if Barry Goldwater would be 'conservative' enough for those who wish to sacrifice the next election on the altar of conservative purity?
- "mark My Word, If And When These Preachers Get Control Of The Party, And They’re Sure Trying To Do So, It’s Going To Be A Terrible Damn Problem.”
Barry Goldwater Full quote: Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they’re sure trying to do so, it’s going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand...
- The Criterion Of Panic, And Resignation?- Ej Dionne
EJ Dionne from RCP:The right wing has lost the election of 2012.The evidence for this is overwhelming, yet it is the year’s best-kept secret. Mitt Romney would not be throwing virtually all of his past positions overboard if he thought the nation were...
- Kirsten Powers Gets It?!?!?
The Daily Beast: Stop Mocking the Tea Party by Kirsten Powers September 16, 2010 10:41pm The media doesn’t get it, says Kirsten Powers. The Tea Party crowd is about to radically reshape the Republican Party on a scale not seen since Barry Goldwater...
- Democrats Hate Property, Fine...but What Do Republicans Stand For Now?
Since the Goldwater inspired victory of Ronald Reagan a generation ago, and Newt Gingrich's similarly generated 1994 victory the republicans have degenerated from a libertarian based conservatism to what is now perceived to be a corrupted group...
- Why I Cannot Yet Be A Republican ..and It's An Easy One
James Dobson decides to endorse Hillary Clinton? You bet. Make no mistake about this one ... The Values Test By JAMES C. DOBSON Colorado Springs REPORTS have surfaced in the press about a meeting that occurred last Saturday in Salt Lake City...