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from The Infidel Task Force:
What Part of NO, Don't You Understand?
by ASSIST News ServicePosted: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:53
Two Egyptian twin boys have said, "We refuse to be Muslims by force," after losing a court case.
Middle East journalist, Mary Abdelmassih, writing for the Assyrian International News Agency explained the background to this controversial case.
"On March 30 [2010] an administrative judicial court in Egypt dismissed a lawsuit filed by Mrs. Camilia Lutfi, mother of the Coptic Christian twins boys Mario and Andrew, against the Interior Minister, and the director of the Civil Status Department for refusing to re-instate the Christian religion on their birth certificates, and invalidate those which were forcefully changed to 'Islam' in 2005 by their father Medhat Ramsis Labib, who had converted to Islam."
Abdelmassih said that after his conversion, Andrew and Mario became Muslims in what is called "Islamisation by dependence", by which children follow the religion of a converted parent (to Islam only) until they reach the age of puberty (fifteen), because Islam is "the best among all religions", according to Egyptian Court rulings.
"The purpose of Lutfi's litigation was to restore back to her twins their identity as Christians, before reaching the age of 16 in June, when they will have their national ID cards issued," she wrote. "Camilia said that because of the developments in their case, her worst nightmares would materialise, in which they would have Islam as religious affiliation on their ID cards."
Mrs Lutfi told the Free Copts advocacy, "If they change to Christianity after that, they will be considered apostates."
Abdelmassih reported that she expressed her surprise at the intransigence of the judiciary in dealing with the issue of her sons, especially after they have already reached the legal age of 15-years, when they can choose their own religion.
"The boys have lived this tragedy for the last ten years, through no fault of their own," she said.
ElYoum 7 Newspaper reported that 15-years-old Mario and Andrew were extremely disappointed with the court verdict, saying "faith is not by force, we want to remain Christians and we do not wish to become Muslims".
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Green Energy
What Part of NO, Don't You Understand?
from The Infidel Task Force:
What Part of NO, Don't You Understand?
by ASSIST News ServicePosted: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 11:53
Two Egyptian twin boys have said, "We refuse to be Muslims by force," after losing a court case.
Middle East journalist, Mary Abdelmassih, writing for the Assyrian International News Agency explained the background to this controversial case.
"On March 30 [2010] an administrative judicial court in Egypt dismissed a lawsuit filed by Mrs. Camilia Lutfi, mother of the Coptic Christian twins boys Mario and Andrew, against the Interior Minister, and the director of the Civil Status Department for refusing to re-instate the Christian religion on their birth certificates, and invalidate those which were forcefully changed to 'Islam' in 2005 by their father Medhat Ramsis Labib, who had converted to Islam."
Abdelmassih said that after his conversion, Andrew and Mario became Muslims in what is called "Islamisation by dependence", by which children follow the religion of a converted parent (to Islam only) until they reach the age of puberty (fifteen), because Islam is "the best among all religions", according to Egyptian Court rulings.
"The purpose of Lutfi's litigation was to restore back to her twins their identity as Christians, before reaching the age of 16 in June, when they will have their national ID cards issued," she wrote. "Camilia said that because of the developments in their case, her worst nightmares would materialise, in which they would have Islam as religious affiliation on their ID cards."
Mrs Lutfi told the Free Copts advocacy, "If they change to Christianity after that, they will be considered apostates."
Abdelmassih reported that she expressed her surprise at the intransigence of the judiciary in dealing with the issue of her sons, especially after they have already reached the legal age of 15-years, when they can choose their own religion.
"The boys have lived this tragedy for the last ten years, through no fault of their own," she said.
ElYoum 7 Newspaper reported that 15-years-old Mario and Andrew were extremely disappointed with the court verdict, saying "faith is not by force, we want to remain Christians and we do not wish to become Muslims".
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- Egypt's State Council Issues Report Stating Christians Are Infidels, And Apostates From Islam Should Die
Is Egypt's State Council misunderstanding the Krayon, or is this the true Islam? If I say that Islam is an immoral religion which does not permit basic human rights such as Freedom of Conscience, I am accused of being a racist/Islamophobe/bigot/Nazi/extremist....
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Oops. Yesterday, I was happy to report that the Egyptian Grand Mufti had declared that apostasy ought no longer be punished with the death penalty. But, today, I find he denies ever saying any such thing. Oh well, back to the 7th century we go. Thanks...
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Thanks to Ali Eteraz for sending this over to me. Ali says, "This is a huge day." I agree. This is very clear progress. Egypt’s official religious advisor has ruled that Muslims are free to change their faith as it is a matter between an individual...
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